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		<title>By: On-Screen Scientist &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A Commercial (with Money-Saving Coupon), Some Thank Yous, and an Animal Identification</title>
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		<description>[...] of Bad Habits Acquired in One’s Youth: Smoking and Atheism. Thank you, Dave. Ropata of the Earth is My Favorite Planet blog also linked to the Bad Habits post. Thanks, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ropata</title>
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		<dc:creator>ropata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 06:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS: To all Hyper-skeptics like Sue, see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bethinking.org/bible-jesus/advanced/the-god-who-wasnt-there-part-1.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this demolition of crappy arguments that Jesus never existed&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS: To all Hyper-skeptics like Sue, see <a href="http://www.bethinking.org/bible-jesus/advanced/the-god-who-wasnt-there-part-1.htm" rel="nofollow">this demolition of crappy arguments that Jesus never existed</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: ropata</title>
		<link>http://ropata.wordpress.com/2008/08/27/climate-flew-think-unholysmoke/#comment-214</link>
		<dc:creator>ropata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 06:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment. I&#039;m not sure which POV is totally obnoxious? The mainstream historical evidence that Jesus really existed seems reasonable to me (admittedly a non-scholar). Wikipedia provides a comprehensive background to this topic. 
&lt;i&gt;&quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;historicity [of Jesus] is still regarded as effectively proven&lt;/a&gt; by almost all Biblical scholars and historians&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

As to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_the_Christian_Biblical_canon&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;compilation of the Bible&lt;/a&gt;, this was indeed a process over hundreds of years, but the canon has been stable since approx 400 AD.
 
People fight wars of conquest for many reasons, but have you ever read the Sermon on the Mount? Also, as Jesus was about to be crucified he told Peter to put away his sword. 

I think you have a fairly limited understanding of the Christian faith, but I wish you well in your quest for truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment. I&#8217;m not sure which POV is totally obnoxious? The mainstream historical evidence that Jesus really existed seems reasonable to me (admittedly a non-scholar). Wikipedia provides a comprehensive background to this topic.<br />
<i>&#8220;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus" rel="nofollow">historicity [of Jesus] is still regarded as effectively proven</a> by almost all Biblical scholars and historians&#8221;</i></p>
<p>As to the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_the_Christian_Biblical_canon" rel="nofollow">compilation of the Bible</a>, this was indeed a process over hundreds of years, but the canon has been stable since approx 400 AD.</p>
<p>People fight wars of conquest for many reasons, but have you ever read the Sermon on the Mount? Also, as Jesus was about to be crucified he told Peter to put away his sword. </p>
<p>I think you have a fairly limited understanding of the Christian faith, but I wish you well in your quest for truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 05:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which &quot;evidence&quot; are you going to follow and why?

1. www.dabase.org/dualsens.htm
2. www.dabase.org/dht7.htm 
3. www.dabase.org/rgcbpobk.htm 
4. www.kneeoflistening.com 

The &quot;evidence&quot; written down and &quot;officially&quot; compiled 1700 years ago about a &quot;person&quot; (Jesus) of whom we know absolutely nothing about---it is ALL conjecture. 

1.www.dabase.org/exochrist.htm
2. www.jesusneverexisted.com

And by people who we know absolutely nothing about.
And of whom we have no idea as to what their motives were in constructing the Bible as they did. Why they chose certain available texts. Left others out. And heavily edited even the  texts they did choose.

And why, in a time and place when ALL the Sacred Scriptures of the entire Great Tradition of Humankind are freely available on the internet, does the &quot;truth&quot; have to turn out to be &quot;christian&quot;---or based on the writings of a small then insigificant cult (or cults) in Israel/Palestine----as though their cultic writings have a binding hold on all of Humankind throughout the rest of HIS-story.

Such a point of view is totally obnoxious and INEVITABLY leads to &quot;religious&quot; wars of conquest---or wars of conquest justified by the local cultic deity. 

1. www.adidam.org/flash/truthandreligion/index.html 
2. www.dabase.org/proofch6.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which &#8220;evidence&#8221; are you going to follow and why?</p>
<p>1. <a href="http://www.dabase.org/dualsens.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.dabase.org/dualsens.htm</a><br />
2. <a href="http://www.dabase.org/dht7.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.dabase.org/dht7.htm</a><br />
3. <a href="http://www.dabase.org/rgcbpobk.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.dabase.org/rgcbpobk.htm</a><br />
4. <a href="http://www.kneeoflistening.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.kneeoflistening.com</a> </p>
<p>The &#8220;evidence&#8221; written down and &#8220;officially&#8221; compiled 1700 years ago about a &#8220;person&#8221; (Jesus) of whom we know absolutely nothing about&#8212;it is ALL conjecture. </p>
<p>1.www.dabase.org/exochrist.htm<br />
2. <a href="http://www.jesusneverexisted.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.jesusneverexisted.com</a></p>
<p>And by people who we know absolutely nothing about.<br />
And of whom we have no idea as to what their motives were in constructing the Bible as they did. Why they chose certain available texts. Left others out. And heavily edited even the  texts they did choose.</p>
<p>And why, in a time and place when ALL the Sacred Scriptures of the entire Great Tradition of Humankind are freely available on the internet, does the &#8220;truth&#8221; have to turn out to be &#8220;christian&#8221;&#8212;or based on the writings of a small then insigificant cult (or cults) in Israel/Palestine&#8212;-as though their cultic writings have a binding hold on all of Humankind throughout the rest of HIS-story.</p>
<p>Such a point of view is totally obnoxious and INEVITABLY leads to &#8220;religious&#8221; wars of conquest&#8212;or wars of conquest justified by the local cultic deity. </p>
<p>1. <a href="http://www.adidam.org/flash/truthandreligion/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.adidam.org/flash/truthandreligion/index.html</a><br />
2. <a href="http://www.dabase.org/proofch6.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.dabase.org/proofch6.htm</a></p>
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